Ateii aduc tot felul de argumente despre presupuse incompatibilitati intre diferitele atribute ale lui Dumnezeu. Pe majoritatea le gasesc foarte slabe. Am gasit pe unul din site-urile lor argumentul asta (e in engleza, daca e nevoie pot traduce), pe care v-as ruga sa ma ajutati sa-l combat
1. If God exists, then he is omniscient.
2. If God exists, then he is free.
3. An omniscient being must know exactly what actions he will and will not do in the future.
4. If one knows that he will do an action, then it is impossible for him not to do it, and if one knows that he will not do an action, then it is impossible for him to do it.
5. Thus, whatever an omniscient being does, he must do, and whatever he does not do, he cannot do (from 3 and 4).
6. To be free requires having options open, which means having the ability to act contrary to the way one actually acts.
7. So, if one is free, then he does not have to do what he actually does, and he is able to do things that he does not actually do (from 6).
8. Hence, it is impossible for an omniscient being to be free (from 5 and 7).
9. Therefore, it is impossible for God to exist (from 1, 2, and 8).
Cum credeti ca se impaca omniscienta lui Dumnezeu cu libertatea Lui de alegere ? Stie El dinainte ce alegeri o sa faca in viitor ? Daca stie, cum anume poate fi liber ? Cum iese din lantul determinismului ?
Ma intereseaza si legatura intre vointa Lui si firea Lui (si daca vointa face parte din fire). Caci unii zic ca Dumnezeu, daca e imuabil, nu poate avea la un moment dat o intentie, o vointa de a crea, pentru ca asta L-ar face sa nu mai fie imuabil. De asemenea, cum se impaca iubirea, bucuria sau mania lui Dumnezeu, care se aprinde in anumite momente fata de pamanteni (multe cazuri de genul asta sunt relatate in Biblie) cu imuabilitatea (firii) lui Dumnezeu ?